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>> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the campaign. >> what does it mean, jim, for mitt romney. if we accept he won the night last night, how does he make it about more than one night and a turning point in the campaign? >> i can't emphasize how big last night was for mitt romney. you have to view it from the mitt romney that came into the debate. conservatives were down on him. his sta
>> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the final day of the season. we'll have that and the rest of the playoff picture in sports. >> the red sox almost did that last night. >>> before we get to sports, let's check in with music city, usa, where it's 5:38 in the morning. jon meacham, are you still awake and with us? >> oh, hey. >> good. jon, where's lunch today? if i were you, i'd go to rotier's or loveless, but your call. >> i'm a longtime rotier's fan. the other is ledbetter's. >> don't forget, rotier's has american cheese and crackers as their lead appetizer. >> ritz. that's the difference. that's the difference. think of the markup on that
the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the...
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i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come back from that, governor. what i will say is, you know, in terms of this debate, i found one part of it, which was really refreshing, it was pretty wonky. it was pretty substantive. >> the b.s. wonk. >> what's that? >> b.s. wonk. >> mitt romney was floating policies out there -- >> united states has the best health outcomes in the world? >> it was not -- that's it, it was not a lot of one-liners and zingers. >> a couple of good one-liners. people forgot. i've been in business for 25 years, i have no idea what you're talking about, that's pretty good. >> i need to consult with my accountant is
i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr. romney probably thought better than to mention republicans defunding planned parenthood or mandating transvageal ultrasound probes. yet, if you listened closely, women were mentioned at every turn. >> i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arp and she said, i have been out of work since may. can you help me? yesterday was a rally in denver, and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms. a woman came to me and she said, look, i can't afford insurance for myself or my son. >> joining us here in new york is my colleague crist yal ball, one of the mosts of "the cycl
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr....
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>> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> the president meanwhile spent most of the day yesterday preparing for the debate. at his nevada campaign headquarters. taking a break to deliver pizza to one of the local campaign offices. he then started working the phones to thank volunteers. >> that was very nice, you know. you know, although basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> also in henderson, nevada, last night, just eight miles away from wher
>> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about...
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>> well, "saturday night live" was great. >> it's monday. you're late. >> pretty good booking, big bird. mitt romney wants to shut down pbs. big bird. it was pretty nice. the big thing was they got to the bottom of why president obama maybe did poorly. >> really? >> it had something to do with the fact that he forgot a wedding anniversary gift. >> really? actually, never. i haven't. i personally have not forgotten any wedding anniversary gifts. >> unfortunately guys are not perfect. we're imperfect animals. >> so what happened during "saturday night live"? >> let's look at the clip. >> yeah. the anniversary gift. i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i have the secret service directing me while i hit the hotel gift shop for an anniversary gift. a denver broncos sweatshirt. the hotel had nice bath clothes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president -- >> i'm sorry. yeah. yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden
>> well, "saturday night live" was great. >> it's monday. you're late. >> pretty good booking, big bird. mitt romney wants to shut down pbs. big bird. it was pretty nice. the big thing was they got to the bottom of why president obama maybe did poorly. >> really? >> it had something to do with the fact that he forgot a wedding anniversary gift. >> really? actually, never. i haven't. i personally have not forgotten any wedding anniversary gifts....
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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with independent voters and/or undecided voters in your state of ohio? >> i don't think so. i think people realize that governor romney is still wrong on medicare and still wrong on trade and still wrong on jobs and still wrong on the middle class. i think that's increasingly clear. again it goes back to which path do you go. do you want to go back to the trickle down economics you give tax cuts to the rich and hope it helps the middle class or do you focus on the middle class and that's trait enforcement, it's i don't think training at community colleges like columbus state and sinclair. i
you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with...
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called mitt romney out for what he did last night. not just about his $5 trillion tax cut but a number of other things. and, you know, we'll continue doing that. as i was listening to your piece coming into me, and you talked about our ad. we went on the air today. we're going to continue doing it pointing out all the things mitt romney said last night that are basically not true. it's almost as if he forgot what the last six years of running for president meant. >> yeah. so are you -- i mean, there was a multi -- there were millions of people watching last night. over 60 million people watching. it was the biggest watch debate since 1980. are you worried people will believe mitt romney's lies if they're not countered in debates? >> ed, it's not as if these people are just tuning in right now. you know, this race has been going on for some time. they -- you know, they know that mitt romney has been campaigning for the last two years on a $5 trillion tax cut. that's the only piece of his economic policy. that's what he points to when h
called mitt romney out for what he did last night. not just about his $5 trillion tax cut but a number of other things. and, you know, we'll continue doing that. as i was listening to your piece coming into me, and you talked about our ad. we went on the air today. we're going to continue doing it pointing out all the things mitt romney said last night that are basically not true. it's almost as if he forgot what the last six years of running for president meant. >> yeah. so are you -- i...
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i mean, look, chris, last night if mitt romney was talking, he was lying. he lied about his tax plan that cost $5 trillion. his campaign has never disputed that his tax plan costs $5 trillion until last night. he lied about medicare and what his plan will do. >> we are going to get into some of those specifics, so here's -- >> here's my point, chris. i don't believe that style will win out over substance in the long run. one reason mitt romney -- >> let me ask the same question to shawn. shawn, style versus substance? >> right. i think last night was a clear choice. and on style and on substance or any other measure that you want to judge it, mitt romney laid out a clear plan for this country and did it in a way that resonated with most americans. i think on the other hand it was not a question of style that the president lacked, it was a lacking of policies and a record over the last four years that he was able to pivot to. and i think the problem is that at some point in the middle of the debate last night the president finally realized, wait, i have actu
i mean, look, chris, last night if mitt romney was talking, he was lying. he lied about his tax plan that cost $5 trillion. his campaign has never disputed that his tax plan costs $5 trillion until last night. he lied about medicare and what his plan will do. >> we are going to get into some of those specifics, so here's -- >> here's my point, chris. i don't believe that style will win out over substance in the long run. one reason mitt romney -- >> let me ask the same...
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romney should be spooked, but the real fright night is tomorrow, when he'll have to stand up there and answer to the 47% and to the president. >>> joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, now an nbc news political analyst and elisia menendez. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> i hope you like the sound effects, governor, i did it for you. >> if you get any thinner, you'll look like a skeleton on halloween night. >> oh e well, we'll talk about that another time. let me say, the 47% is bad enough. it's haunting romney and his campaign. but we have just got from "the huffington post" a statement that mr. ryan made, a sound bite, about americans that sounds very similar. let me play this to you for the first time and get your reaction. this was a year ago, paul ryan last november, talking about his estimate of how many people are dependent on government. listen to this. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. 70% of americans want the amer
romney should be spooked, but the real fright night is tomorrow, when he'll have to stand up there and answer to the 47% and to the president. >>> joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, now an nbc news political analyst and elisia menendez. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> i hope you like the sound effects, governor, i did it for you. >> if you get any thinner, you'll look like a skeleton on halloween night. >> oh e well, we'll talk...
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romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now having a hard time deciding whether they are supposed to call that a lie or whether they're supposed to ju
romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what...
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was last night a good night for mitt romney? yes, it was. bad night for obama? sure. did the president blow a chance to deliver a knockout punch? you better believe it. but really, everything is going to be okay. sure, the president looked bored and defensive, but he didn't say anything sound bitable. he didn't sight, he didn't check his watch, didn't answer in detached and aloof fashion a question about somebody raining and killing his wife. he was not shocking, he was -- i suspect the goal of the night was actually to be mhh and live to fight another day. it's not the greatest strategy i have ever heard but it's not a campaign-ending strategy. we've still got three more debates to go. the next one is next week and it's between joe biden and paul ryan. joe's not going to be afraid to throw some punks around and combat the deceptions about taxes, medicare, social security, and the rest. and the president himself has two more chances to meet romney on the debate field of battle. you can bet that the passive note scribbling guy that showed up last night is not going to
was last night a good night for mitt romney? yes, it was. bad night for obama? sure. did the president blow a chance to deliver a knockout punch? you better believe it. but really, everything is going to be okay. sure, the president looked bored and defensive, but he didn't say anything sound bitable. he didn't sight, he didn't check his watch, didn't answer in detached and aloof fashion a question about somebody raining and killing his wife. he was not shocking, he was -- i suspect the goal of...
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mitchell reports," a bout last night, president obama and governor romney, what both are saying about their debate performance. >> when i got on to the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> last night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very din visions for the country. and i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> overnight polls and "the denver post" give round one to romney. as a republican challenger went after the president's record. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spent his energy and passion for two
mitchell reports," a bout last night, president obama and governor romney, what both are saying about their debate performance. >> when i got on to the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> last...
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the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate.
the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could...
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this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that momentum in the final days? >> well, first of all, i'm not the least bit surprised mitt romney did as well as he did. he did well in the 20 debates rick santorum went up against him. i would also argue one of the big advantages romney had going into the debate was he did have to debate rick santorum, he did have to debate newt gingrich. it is like having a preseason. and the president didn't have that. i think the other key thing that came out of this is the presidential race for all practical purposes actually started last night. a lot of people just didn't know mitt romney
this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that...
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at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is from the obama campaign. >> i'm barack obama, i approve this message. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney, taking on our enemies no matter where
at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the...
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that's next. >>> and later, i will show mitt romney who is to win tomorrow night's debate. i actually showed him how to do it six years ago in an episode of "the west wing." mitt romney and "the west wing" are in tonight's rewrite. >> i've had a lot of republicans tell me, even supporters of yours, they look to mitt romney's tape, that 47% comment, how damaging was that? >> it was -- mitt acknowledged it was a very inarticulate way of a point we've been making all along in this campaign. >>> in the end, it is unlikely that either candidate for president will say something. with a greater impact on the outcome of the election than this. >> there are 47% of the people are going to vote for the people either way. there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government. who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. who believe they're entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name i. that's an entitlement and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and i
that's next. >>> and later, i will show mitt romney who is to win tomorrow night's debate. i actually showed him how to do it six years ago in an episode of "the west wing." mitt romney and "the west wing" are in tonight's rewrite. >> i've had a lot of republicans tell me, even supporters of yours, they look to mitt romney's tape, that 47% comment, how damaging was that? >> it was -- mitt acknowledged it was a very inarticulate way of a point we've been...
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sort of retroactively rebutting some of the points romney brought up on wednesday night. points he probably would have liked to have made wednesday night, but he's rolling them out now. one of those points taking issue with romney's claim that he would slash the deficit by trimming funding to public television, including big bird. of course, that's become a big laugh line now. president obama saying elmo better watch out. he also had a new line of attack today. he brought up the fact that mitt romney had essentially said his health care plan would include funding pre-existing conditions. that's a claim that the romney campaign has walked back. today president obama said that mitt romney was fact checked by his own campaign, so we're seeing a feistier more aggressive president obama certainly than we saw on wednesday night. >> and the president's advisers, kristin, say that they will likely make some adjustments before the next debate. is it fair to assume that the president may become slightly more aggressive at the next one? >> reporter: i think that it's a fairly safe a
sort of retroactively rebutting some of the points romney brought up on wednesday night. points he probably would have liked to have made wednesday night, but he's rolling them out now. one of those points taking issue with romney's claim that he would slash the deficit by trimming funding to public television, including big bird. of course, that's become a big laugh line now. president obama saying elmo better watch out. he also had a new line of attack today. he brought up the fact that mitt...
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just be mitt romney and he'll have a good night. >> we will hear about the 47% from barack obama tonight. he will bring that up. i think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate, something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina by our dear friend joe biden. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle class families with a child, one or more children, by an aadditional $2,000 a year. all kidding aside with all the boos we can stop that malarkey. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify raising taxes when the middle class has been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can they justify? >> god bless him. >> has anybody told him the middle class has been buried? >> i am being deadly earnest now. how anyone can attempt to bury the vice president is beyond me. >> i got a good laugh out of it. >> you think we might hear the middle class has been buried. >> that is fresh and new and relevant. >> just look at the general mood of the country again which is difficult and the right and wrong track. the wrong track numbers is 53% thinking we are heading in
just be mitt romney and he'll have a good night. >> we will hear about the 47% from barack obama tonight. he will bring that up. i think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate, something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina by our dear friend joe biden. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle class families with a child, one or more children, by an aadditional $2,000 a year. all kidding aside with all the boos we can stop that malarkey. this is...
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what mitt romney did not win last night is next in the rewrite. add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> at this very minute. the news minute on tv and online the news media were flooding you with information about who won the debate. i used to be one of those guys. i knew for sure that john kerry won all three of his debates against george bush. but of course he didn't. this is a good time to think about what it means to win a debate. in high school and college debates there are judges to decide which debaters who actually won. those debates have real winners. winners who get real trophies. no one got a trophy but plenty of people guessed at who would have gotten a trophy. the question is they were debating for votes and those votes wouldn't be counted until next month. so all of the winner talk you have withbeen hearing is just guessing and all of the guessers have been wrong before. my guess is about who won debates have been wrong man
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mitt romney must accomplish a lot on wednesday night to begin to alter this race across the board. romney's team is loading him up with a bunch of zingers for the debate according to to "the new york times." romney has memorized these zingers and has been practicing them on aids since august. romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments. >> i'll tell you what. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal departmentation to allow them to work here. >> i can't have illegals. rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds. and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? >> well, let's bring in democratic strategist chris ko kofinis and susan del percio. i think romney is going to lose his cool. susan, did governor chris
mitt romney must accomplish a lot on wednesday night to begin to alter this race across the board. romney's team is loading him up with a bunch of zingers for the debate according to to "the new york times." romney has memorized these zingers and has been practicing them on aids since august. romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments....
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for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his eighth trip to nevada this year before 00 kwering down for two full days for debate prep at a lakeside resort in suburban las vegas. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this election and i are going to have a debate. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. >> you are. >> i don't know about that. >> both campaigns from the candidates on down have been frantically spinning to lower expectations for wednesday night. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very experienced speaker,
for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his...
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we heard romney the other night. he's got no transformational ideas except trickle down economics which we've seen doesn't work. we're not going to have miracles here. we need steady leadership, and whoever can provide that and be honest with the american people about steady leadership in terms of recovery and how he is going to do it as president ought to be the president. but enough of this rhetoric. >> to your point that the truth is important after these jobs numbers came out, jack welch tweeted, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change the numbers. they are saying, rana, that these numbers were manipulated. >> that's nonsense. come on. >> if they were manipulated he would have boosted the manufacturing numbers. they were still down. these were mostly gains in health and education. i'm hopeful actually that the ticking down of the unemployment figure will make it a little easier to come to the kind of grand bargain we're going to need to come to after the election. as
we heard romney the other night. he's got no transformational ideas except trickle down economics which we've seen doesn't work. we're not going to have miracles here. we need steady leadership, and whoever can provide that and be honest with the american people about steady leadership in terms of recovery and how he is going to do it as president ought to be the president. but enough of this rhetoric. >> to your point that the truth is important after these jobs numbers came out, jack...
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>> i think it was a great night for mitt romney. i think the doom and gloom that's been hanging over the romney campaign, republicans in general has lifted tonight. i think that the democratic advance which began literally a month ago when clint eastwood walked out on stage ended tonight. i think the race is going to tighten. i think mitt romney was in command of this from the beginning. i'm not sure that he lost an exchange during the entire debate. a startling performance in my view and just the context of how good mitt romney was tonight. >> i thought that in terms of individual exchanges i think what may have been most notable, there wasn't i think a single direct attack against mitt romney from president obama. however, they substantively dealt with policy matters. >> he was looking down tonight. he was passive. he was abstract in his answers. mitt romney was talking about real people, giving real examples. i thought he was clear. he was concise. i think the president was muddled tonight. this earlier. when you're the incumbent
>> i think it was a great night for mitt romney. i think the doom and gloom that's been hanging over the romney campaign, republicans in general has lifted tonight. i think that the democratic advance which began literally a month ago when clint eastwood walked out on stage ended tonight. i think the race is going to tighten. i think mitt romney was in command of this from the beginning. i'm not sure that he lost an exchange during the entire debate. a startling performance in my view and...
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brooks wrote an opening statement for romney to deliver tomorrow night. it's mostly fantasy, but it's essentially, tamron, romney say, look, i'm not the idea log i've been running as. i needed to do this to get this far in the process. i think he's the massachusetts mitt and not the inkarn nation that sought the presidency. i'm surprised by the timing. i'm not surprised by the interviews you make reference to. i'm surprised it took that long to get there. the troops don't need more red meat. wild horses could not keep them away from voting against barack obama. he didn't spend enough time in the middle. >> let's bring chris in. he points out some of the vulnerabilities for the president during the debate tomorrow. they talk about the two-minute active ad where he references 100,000 new math and science teachers as well as additional manufacturing jobs in this country. they point out during his second term, how do you break the fever or the part zan fever in washington. many democrats dismiss saying mitch mcconnell and others said they would never work wit
brooks wrote an opening statement for romney to deliver tomorrow night. it's mostly fantasy, but it's essentially, tamron, romney say, look, i'm not the idea log i've been running as. i needed to do this to get this far in the process. i think he's the massachusetts mitt and not the inkarn nation that sought the presidency. i'm surprised by the timing. i'm not surprised by the interviews you make reference to. i'm surprised it took that long to get there. the troops don't need more red meat....
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they will tune in on wednesday night. when they do governor romney will lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. i think that's when you will see this race start to tighten and then move in governor romney's direction. come thursday morning, the entire narrative of the race will change. >> congressman paul ryan was pressed to explain the republican approach to tax policy during an interview yesterday. >> you're the master of the budget. briefly, let's go through the plan. the obama camp says independent groups say if you cut those tax rates for everybody, 20%, it costs $5 trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show if you torture statistics enough, they'll confess to what you want them to confess to. >> how much does it cost? >> it's neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions. the cut in tax rates. >> lowers all americans tax rates. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless i
they will tune in on wednesday night. when they do governor romney will lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. i think that's when you will see this race start to tighten and then move in governor romney's direction. come thursday morning, the entire narrative of the race will change. >> congressman paul ryan was pressed to explain the republican approach to tax policy during an interview yesterday. >> you're the master...
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tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 . >>> paul ryan foolishly set mitt romney up for a big fail in wednesday night's debate by claiming that no one, no one wants to hear the math on the romney/ryan tax plan. sam stein and jonathan cape heart will join me. and arnold schwarzenegger in the rewrite tonight. . >>> the problem we've had is not everybody knows all the specification we've put out there. not everybody knows these plans, our five-point plan for a stronger middle class. >> of course no one knows the specifics of mitt romney and paul ryan's tax plan because they haven't given any specifics. even fox news chris wallace wants more details on how the romney/ryan tax plan would actually work. >> well, how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions, but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans' tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost. >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away from the deduction. the first half lowering the tax rates, does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. i won't get into a baseline argume
tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 . >>> paul ryan foolishly set mitt romney up for a big fail in wednesday night's debate by claiming that no one, no one wants to hear the math on the romney/ryan tax plan. sam stein and jonathan cape heart will join me. and arnold schwarzenegger in the rewrite tonight. . >>> the problem we've had is not everybody knows all the specification we've put out there. not everybody knows these plans, our five-point plan for a stronger middle class. >> of...
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mitt romney became the leader of the republican party the other night. he did it by being rational, saying, okay, i want tax cuts. but i'm not going to pass tax cuts if it increases the deficit. and in massachusetts, i worked with liberals. every morning we got together and we got things done. it's like -- it's not the sort of warfare that many in my party and in the democratic party have glorified over the past 10, 15 years. i thought mitt came temperamentally at least to the middle, and it seems like he's -- i think ross is right. he's the new leader of the republican party. >> he demonstrated leadership on the ticket, not only is his name first on the ticket, but when asked about paul ryan's plan, he indicated that i'm the leader on this ticket, and we're going to follow what i want to do, one. two, you're going to hear leading republicans who have disagreed with him, those in the congress, in the senate who have insisted that no revenue be a part of any long-term spending control bill in the congress. none of them have said a word. as a matter of fac
mitt romney became the leader of the republican party the other night. he did it by being rational, saying, okay, i want tax cuts. but i'm not going to pass tax cuts if it increases the deficit. and in massachusetts, i worked with liberals. every morning we got together and we got things done. it's like -- it's not the sort of warfare that many in my party and in the democratic party have glorified over the past 10, 15 years. i thought mitt came temperamentally at least to the middle, and it...
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mitt romney landed in colorado last night and scored the endorsement of the big guy. the legendary quarterback and now executive vice president of football operations john elway. it was the only scheduled talk. it was a stealth bomber in the background there. romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> playing off the enthusiastic crowd. romney had lines for the base. may even tested out a few zingers we might hear wednesday night. >> this is a home to focus on the family which is committed to preserving the foundation of america. we have to get the pipe laine from canada if i have to build it myself. >> it will kill america's entrepreneurship. >> that's the first time, by the wa
mitt romney landed in colorado last night and scored the endorsement of the big guy. the legendary quarterback and now executive vice president of football operations john elway. it was the only scheduled talk. it was a stealth bomber in the background there. romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so...
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but it couldn't have been mitt romney, because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> you know, karen, this is the day after the debate when he was criticized for not slugging back at mitt romney. are we going to hear more attacks on these about mitt romney's evolving positions? >> probably, we will. here's the problem that romney has from the beginning. his honest and trustworthiness, which is characteristic in polling, where president obama has consistently done very well. people trust him. also shares my values. with romney, people aren't quite sure. so he's also got fundamental problems, even within his own base. this idea that he's trying to now shift positions in the last few weeks to appease and to appeal to independents comes at too risk to not being able to garner the support he needs on the far right. so, sure. the other point is, either he's lying or we just don't know what he's going to do, because the presi
but it couldn't have been mitt romney, because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> you know, karen, this is the day after the debate when he was criticized for not slugging back at mitt romney. are we going to hear more attacks on these about mitt romney's evolving positions? >> probably, we will. here's the...
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this as mitt romney tries to turn a single night's work into a turning point in the election. we'll discuss it all. >>> when we come back here, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch stephen colbert celebrate mitt romney's debate win with a big old studio rave. "way too early" coming right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> we told you the top of the show that the fight over tax plans has become a central issue in the presidential campaign in part because of the looming fiscal cliff that faces the country at the end of this year. that includes an expiration of the bush era tax cuts. congress is expected to delay voting on some of the fiscal issues until 2013, leaving whomever is elected on november 6th to deal with the problem. according to the tax policy center, if no changes are made to the budget to alleviate the fiscal cliff measures, taxe
this as mitt romney tries to turn a single night's work into a turning point in the election. we'll discuss it all. >>> when we come back here, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch stephen colbert celebrate mitt romney's debate win with a big old studio rave. "way too early" coming right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring...
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i had a white board last night. i should have brought it. there is a $4. trillion in revenue. you cut according to mitt romney's own plan there's a 20% rate reduction from the bush tax cuts. we'll end the estate tax. we're going to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. you cannot sit here, mr. speaker, or anybody can't sit here and say, that doesn't require a reduction in the amount of revenue by 4.8 trillion. this is math. >> i'll say it right now. >> moderates, liberals, everybody says here is the problem. you guys won't give him any credit for closing loopholes because like you guys he won't name the loopholes. why? you'll attack him for doing it. >> this is important. >> if there is substance -- you keep bringing up substance. let me hear some obama substance. your substance is to attack romney. that's the whole campaign. where was the president's vision? if he had a couple of sharp ideas, he would have had a better debate. >> the president talked about his health care plan, and mitt romney said my health care plan will do the same thing. >> i do think there's an iss
i had a white board last night. i should have brought it. there is a $4. trillion in revenue. you cut according to mitt romney's own plan there's a 20% rate reduction from the bush tax cuts. we'll end the estate tax. we're going to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. you cannot sit here, mr. speaker, or anybody can't sit here and say, that doesn't require a reduction in the amount of revenue by 4.8 trillion. this is math. >> i'll say it right now. >> moderates, liberals,...
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this is a big, big debate on wednesday night. this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of representatives and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the pr
this is a big, big debate on wednesday night. this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of representatives and pick up seats in the senate. the...
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you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to get you to that point. >> dana, isn't that the problem? he comes out of this debate having three at trically won a score in terms of the night but now he's got the problem of having to defend an economic plan that is really problematic for him, particularly given his record and particularly given the republican base. going forward, doesn't he have the burden to defend what he did the other night? >> he does. i assume what is going on here is romney said, look, with the hard right thing, we are down in the key states. we're down overall. this isn't working. well, let's bring back that etch-a-sketch campaign. will americans believe suddenly this man that's been saying one thing for the last year or two is now believed something entirely different? he's simply walked away from the who
you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to get you to that point. >> dana, isn't that the problem? he comes out of this debate having three at trically won a score in terms of the night but now he's got the problem of having to defend an economic plan that is really problematic...
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and on wednesday night, they won't be distracted by any zingers cooked up by romney's team of joke writers. joining me now is michelle cottle, washington correspondent for "newsweek" and the daily beast. and dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." thanks to you both for coming on tonight. dana, are zingers the answer for mitt romney? >> well, he has to beware the very perilous boomerang zinger. delivering in sort of the wrong way, then it looks canned, it looks contrived and that you're trying too hard. if he comes out and says, there you go again, you're going to hear a thumping sound and that's going to be me and everybody else pounding our heads on the table in the next room in the debate. he's wooden and stiff as it is. if he's seen as throwing down a line, that's much worse than skipping the zingers at all. i would just try to have an actual debate. >> michelle, it's pretty bad when you use a zinger and it doesn't even work but, to be honest, mitt romney's been talking and dealing with zingers for a long time. let me show you something about mitt romney and zingers going ba
and on wednesday night, they won't be distracted by any zingers cooked up by romney's team of joke writers. joining me now is michelle cottle, washington correspondent for "newsweek" and the daily beast. and dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." thanks to you both for coming on tonight. dana, are zingers the answer for mitt romney? >> well, he has to beware the very perilous boomerang zinger. delivering in sort of the wrong way, then it looks canned, it...
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on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks, but what can he do? he might add to his policies by embracing, say, breaking up the largest banks, the sound policy that would subvert the -- but not good venues for explaining anything, actually. but especially not new initiatives. and october is a time for summations to the jury, not new submissions of evidence. you agree? >> i agree with that completely. i think the idea of romney going out there and saying let's break up the big banks, i think it would not help him. i think his -- apart from what howard and john have said, i think his challenge is he's got to deal with this 47% problem. he's got to somehow walk back from that and convince people he actually cares about all of america. that's his job as well as humanizing himself. i think the moderator and president obama are going to be desperately trying to get this guy to be specific about what it is he wants to do. not only does he change positions, but right now, he won't say what he wants to do about tax loopholes, and medicare, and if i were th
on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks, but what can he do? he might add to his policies by embracing, say, breaking up the largest banks, the sound policy that would subvert the -- but not good venues for explaining anything, actually. but especially not new initiatives. and october is a time for summations to the jury, not new submissions of evidence. you agree? >> i agree with that completely. i think the idea of romney going out there and saying let's break...